The Nightmare of Flying With Pets -and How it’s being Fixed!
BarkBox and Bark Air co-founder Henrik Werdelin joins Rocky and Kelly for a conversation that is equal parts hilarious, sharp, and surprisingly heartfelt- starting with the now-legendary cruise-ship prank that sparked a global dog brand.

From there, Henrik breaks down the mindset behind building BarkBox, Bark in the Belly, and Bark Air, the first airline designed entirely around dogs. Henrik shares why he rejects the idea of “playbook founders,” why he trusts instinct over consensus, and why he still stands by the straight-shooting comments he made in an Animal Planet pitch meeting with Rocky years ago.
He also opens up about idea generation, risk, creative friction, and why solving problems for dogs is often easier, and more joyful, than solving them for humans. PLUS: Rocky and Kelly pitch Henrik a few business ideas of their own. Will they fly? Dogs and Coffee Podcast by Rocky Kanaka and Kelly Kanaka where they talk all things dogs and coffee.

This podcast covers comedy to heartfelt moments talking about the state of dog rescue, how to handle difficult dogs, some of our favorite coffee drinks and more all while Rocky tries to be a barista. We serve Flip Coffee at local cafes and will hopefully do this around the country.
